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!The Leadership Topic!
Post by Marisol Morales on Aug 27, 2007, 10:26am

The time has come.

Though Claire is working hard and promises results, Wildfire's reawakening is seeming less and less of a possibility; she was able to find two new mice for the eyes, but fixing the interior organs is proving to be much more of a trick.

With that in mind, the need for a new leader is becoming more and more apparent. As such, Banshee has assembled the team in the Lounge. Their objective? Talk. Listen. Discuss. Come out with a new leader.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 10:27am

« Thanks Lasty, but we're a mite busy at the current moment! »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Marisol Morales on Aug 27, 2007, 10:28am

[We are?]


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 10:28am

I lean against the wall and look at the assembled.

"I have moral objections to following Nathaniel. There, I've said it."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Kelly Alecia "Star Girl" Lisa on Aug 27, 2007, 10:29am

[A tiny bit.]


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Last Hero on Aug 27, 2007, 10:31am

«There is nothing productive going on there, this topic might actually achieve something. THat one will not.»


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Kelly Alecia "Star Girl" Lisa on Aug 27, 2007, 10:32am

[Oh. Ignore my last post then :).]


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 10:33am

« Well, I'm distracted, and this topic will only get started when the night people start coming anyway, but might as well get it started early. »

"I Don't. Nathaniel is a great leader."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 10:35am

"Nathaniel is a being of accursed heritage, and from Daniel's memories, I noticed an incident of attacking his teammates to protect the witch he calls his wife."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 10:36am

« I assume this is set before the current mission. »

"He was in love, Ochestra."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Protoman on Aug 27, 2007, 10:36am

«Yeah, when exactly is this set? Lex's opinions will be different.»


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 10:37am

"An abstract concept created by humans to justify their oft illogical behavior. I will not follow one who allows himself to be led by something such as this."

Forgive me Pester, I feel my limited time around these humans has hardened my heart.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Adam "Flesh Lantern" Morris on Aug 27, 2007, 10:37am

"Scary guy's right!" Adam bursts, pointing at Orc. "Nate's a big baby!"

Adam's quite frustrated at having to be the smartest in every situation, lately.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 10:38am

"Nathaniel doesn't have a way with people, and from what I've heard, the trust level dropped like it was hot," Torrance offers, swiveling back and forth in her seat next to Orchestra.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 10:40am

"He's not a baby! We woulden't hold it agienst Mr. Summers for trying to save Jean. And he was right too. We all, in anger, attacked them, and what did it get us? We got curbstopmed, just…

Just beacuse they showed us that head…"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 10:41am

"Furthermore, 'love' aside," I say, making sure to make quotes with my fingers - I learned that from TV. "Anyone who would put the safety of their mates or progeny above that of the whole tribe would not make a fit leader."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 10:45am

"People, just get organized. First up: Who wants to lead this outfit?" Noir stands up, leaning on the table with her knuckles. "We don't even know who our willing candidates are, me aside."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 10:46am

« Again, we do need to wait for Doddle and Grey to be on to do this properly. »

"Sara and Marcus want to…"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Protoman on Aug 27, 2007, 10:46am

…she joined Magneto…

Lex stands up.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 10:47am

"I would not object to leading, but I know I am not the best candidate, given my bias against certain members of this team. Forgive me." I bow.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 11:18am

"Everyone's biased, Spook," she smiles at Orchestra, then nods to Lex. "You, I'm happy to see throw your faux-hawk in the ring. And then Marcus, Sara…"

She ticks off the heads in the room. "I'll be candid and say I'd prefer the 16 and overs get priority, if only because that's how we chose prefects back at the girls' school in Oz. That's just me, though, and I'm sure field experience is going to count for more than others."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Cheshire on Aug 27, 2007, 11:43am

"I'd like to," Joe says softly. "But I don't think too many people'd listen to me, and I ain't that smart, so I don't know how good I'd be at it."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 11:44am

"I think people would listen to you swettie."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Danny O'Conner on Aug 27, 2007, 11:45am

"Oh, you'd make a great leader, Joseph. When you're ready. Which is not now. Anyway, I would like to lead."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Cheshire on Aug 27, 2007, 11:46am

"Maybe they would, but I'd really like someone smarter to lead the team."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 11:48am

"No, Daniel."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Danny O'Conner on Aug 27, 2007, 11:53am

"Why not, Lisa?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 12:05pm

"Beacuse…."

I sit down, looking away.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Danny O'Conner on Aug 27, 2007, 12:19pm

"…you have to have a reason."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Protoman on Aug 27, 2007, 12:33pm

Aug 27, 2007, 11:18am, Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura wrote:"Everyone's biased, Spook," she smiles at Orchestra, then nods to Lex. "You, I'm happy to see throw your faux-hawk in the ring. And then Marcus, Sara…"

She ticks off the heads in the room. "I'll be candid and say I'd prefer the 16 and overs get priority, if only because that's how we chose prefects back at the girls' school in Oz. That's just me, though, and I'm sure field experience is going to count for more than others."

"If field experience is counting, then I technically have more than all of you."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sir Nathaniel/Fang on Aug 27, 2007, 1:12pm

Aug 27, 2007, 10:35am, Orchestra the Mighty wrote:"Nathaniel is a being of accursed heritage, and from Daniel's memories, I noticed an incident of attacking his teammates to protect the witch he calls his wife."

"Alexander was visiting at the time. Would you trust a stranger?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 2:55pm

"Very true, now if only you could graduate," Torrance winks at Lex. "Look, I'm not out here saying I'm the best choice, because everyone's got their strengths and weaknesses. But I think you need someone to rally around, or focus your hate on, or whatever, but you need focus. And you don't have it."

She looks over the table. "You don't have it. I see in-fighting, I see cliques, I see favoritism. Which is great, we're kids, it happens, but guess what?

This isn't high school. There are people we know dead or dying," she looks at Lex, remembering Tangle, then looks towards Claire, remembering Wildfire. "There's some heavy shit going on now, with Sentinels, and Xavier, and the dream is pretty much up shit creek, Jay was right.

But you're still a team. We're still a team."

She glances at Sara and Dan. "But we don't act like it. We need to live, sleep, eat, and fight as a team, or those goddamn government boys and their little Mattel robots are gonna hunt you down, and throw you in a camp. And label you. Literally.

This individual heroic stuff, being all selfish and unorganized is a load of bull.

It's not a popularity contest. It's about survival now. And you need someone who can help you do exactly that.

Think about that before you all bust in all 'Me too!' or 'You suck!' like some lame internet forum leech."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Cheshire on Aug 27, 2007, 2:58pm

"That's why I thought you'd be a real good leader, Torrance," Joe mumbles.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 3:01pm

"Joe. Enunciate," Torrance says, lazily turning her attention to him, rapping the table. "We're all fr…we're all going to be together a lot. You can speak openly."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Cheshire on Aug 27, 2007, 3:02pm

"I said that's why I thought you'd be a good leader. Because you do good at gettin' everyone organized and stuff and you're real smart."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Protoman on Aug 27, 2007, 3:03pm

"Everything she said is true, and I suck at making random speeches. I have the most field experience here and I'd put the team's welfare above my own at all times."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Cheshire on Aug 27, 2007, 3:06pm

"Lex…" Joe says, a little miserably, "You're one of my best friends but sometimes…well, sometimes you're a little too hot headed. I heard stories from Dillon and everything. But you do have lots of 'sperience, though!" he adds quickly, so as not to sound too negative.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 3:08pm

"And see," Torrance straightens up, and stabs a finger at Lex, "That's the kind of thing we need. We need to keep in mind, no one leader is going to have all the qualifications, we're only human…"

She rolls her eyes at Orchestra.

"Point is, you can have someone who's good at rallying, and directing, and at the same time, someone else can be good at the field tactics. It doesn't need to be a one man system. Just because someone is higher up the chain doesn't make them better at all points."

She smiles wanly at Lex, trying to channel her point.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Cheshire on Aug 27, 2007, 3:11pm

"Yeah! Like how we had Nathanial and Wild helpin' each other!"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Protoman on Aug 27, 2007, 3:11pm

It takes Lex a moment or two to understand what Torrance is trying to say.

"…that could work. It's similar to the system that was in place here before, as Joe just pointed out."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sara "Radical Dreamer" Lincoln on Aug 27, 2007, 3:14pm

"Torrie is the last person that should even be considered for the job."

Sara says while balancing her staff on her hand

"Here's a girl who shows up at our door step more or less demanding control."

She gives it a spin.

"She's got a track record of selling us out to Magneto…."

One end sticks out and she keeps balancing it.

"..and she bailed on the Hellions while leading them…."

Keeps on twirling

"…and one look at her will tell you that the only thing she really cares about is herself…"

And there goes the other end as she twirls it like a baton

"…so why should we even consider giving power to someone that doesn't care about more then herself?"

And she stops twirling it as it points towards Torrance.

"I'm not saying I'm qualified, but unlike the rest of you, this is everything to me. I don't have the option to pack my bags and leave and go have a life somewhere else. To me it's either stay here or go live on a street. And if Gothy McBitchy somehow gets voted into power, I have NO problems going on about doing the latter."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Danny O'Conner on Aug 27, 2007, 3:16pm

"No offense, Sara, but…you're not really cut out for the job. And you can be immature at times."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Protoman on Aug 27, 2007, 3:18pm

"Sara does have a point with the whole 'selling us out to Magneto' thing."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 3:24pm

"Graduate of the Xavier Academy, I didn't bail. I went to Vegas."

Torrance shrugs and turns to Lex. "As for the Acolytes, Professor Xavier and Dean Frost both understood and commended me for sticking to my philosophy, however flawed the situation was, what with Apocalypse really pulling the strings.

Part of Xavier's ideal is all about giving people second chances and allowing people to find themselves. Dean Frost, Logan, Mr. LeBeau, even the original New Mutants and Cable.

And I'm not demanding control. I'm taking charge of this meeting, because until I did, everyone sat around without purpose.

Pardon me for having a knack for taking charge."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Protoman on Aug 27, 2007, 3:26pm

"I don't think we can trust someone that's willing to join Magneto for any reason to be our leader."

«Besides the fact that, OOC, Torrance makes NO SENSE as a leader.»


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sara "Radical Dreamer" Lincoln on Aug 27, 2007, 3:27pm

Sara stands up

"Tell you what, you guys make a choice. You can keep Torrie around and let her lead you to a knife in your back, or you can keep me around.:

She retracts her staff.

"Because if I even see her name on the voting list, I'm packing my bags and going stateside to try and start from scratch. This is actually insulting."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 3:29pm

"There's a lot of reasons not to trust any of you. Some of you are impulsive. Hot headed. Selfish. Over-eager. Just plain ill equipped."

She shifts her hip and places her hand on it. "Trust isn't given, it's earned, and the truth is no one here has been around everyone long enough to give a fair declaration of trust."

She glances at the news monitor in the corner of the room.

"Besides. Magneto was right."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Protoman on Aug 27, 2007, 3:31pm

"Magneto has never been right. If you're so sure that he was, go back to him. You don't deserve to lead this team if that's what you think."

Lex glances at Sara.

"Besides, if that's an ultimatum, we can't be losing team members."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 3:38pm

"Of course he was in the right. Let's see…an internment camp survivor who knows how petty and selfish people can be when they want to attain something for personal gain…"

She glances at Sara and Lex.

"…and then he wants to protect history from repeating itself. He's going about it all wrong, but so's Xavier.

Jagged fucking pill, but deal with it.

And now we've got Sentinels, Registration, all of the successors to the President dead in one ridiculous fell swoop, dogs and cats mating in the street, and mass paranoia that hasn't been seen since McCarthy."

She lets out a dry laugh. "So yeah, you go run on the street. I'm sure being tagged and bagged is a lot better than having to listen to me give advice once in a low red moon."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 3:45pm

"I'll lead the team, I was the one who kept the Hellions ship afloat anyway. As for Magneto, he grabbed everyone in part because one of his people… hell, one of OUR people, had just been killed by your old leader and that nothing would be done to punish her. And guess what? Magneto was right. Think of Torrance what you want, but at least she hasn't killed one of your teammates. The same can't be said of Wildfire and you had no qualms about following her."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 3:57pm

"Um, excuse me?"

I raise my hand.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 3:59pm

"What's up, Red?" Torrance smiles tightly at Nephy.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 4:00pm

"I'm not sure who's permission to talk you're asking for, but, go ahead."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 4:01pm

"I think… maybe… I could be leader. Maybe."

I blush and look at the ground.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 4:05pm

"That's an option. You've been here since day one. I'm sure here everyone else knows if your suited or not, but I could get behind the idea," Torrance says, of course ignorant of every one of Lisa's darker qualities.

She turns back to the group. "And on that note, I've said all I wanted to say. Do you want to give an oral resume, Red, or did anybody else want to chip in?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Danny O'Conner on Aug 27, 2007, 4:07pm

"Um…I really don't think she should. She has problems."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 4:10pm

"Nothing I do would effect a mission. I've never let that stuff distract me."

I'm quick to point that out, but flounder on the others.

"U-Um… I know everyone here… I know all your powers, and how they work together. I like to think I'm kind of clever at thinking of stratagies… I've done some of that kind of stuff in the Danger room.

And I've been with Gen-X since the start."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 4:10pm

"Will, Initial D, we don't need any smearing, let's stay on topic," she waves the room down. "I'm sure Banshee and crew have a handle on everything of that nature."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 4:11pm

« I was kind of going with this being before the mission, but if it's set in the current, I'm fine with that. »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sir Nathaniel/Fang on Aug 27, 2007, 4:15pm

"Well Banshee has all my recommendations, and my annoucement. I have nothing more to say."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Cheshire on Aug 27, 2007, 4:18pm

"I don't…don't want no one to leave, Sara…"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 4:19pm

"Joseph, what do you think?"

I turn toward him.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 4:21pm

« k, we'll run it pre-last mission. »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 4:22pm

"Nothing, but love Nephy, but you seem to have some confidence issues that could get in the way."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Cheshire on Aug 27, 2007, 4:23pm

Joe bites his lip. "Well, I think you're smart enough, and you got good ideas, but I know a couple of people wouldn't be comfortable with you cause…well, y'know." He sighs. "And Torrance would be good but not if it means Sara's gonna lead. And Sara can think real fast on her feet but sometimes that ain't good and she don't always make good decisions…and Orchestra's new and don't none of us know what he's like…"

Joe's eyes brighten for a moment. "What about Marcus? I bet he'd be good!"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 4:25pm

"See? Joe doesn't have any problem with me leading. Uh… fill me in, isn't Marcus Satan or something? What's going on there?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Cheshire on Aug 27, 2007, 4:27pm

"Well, he's kinda the Devil but not really, cause he's a good guy and not evil. And also I think his key thingy don't work no more. But I'm not sure, it kinda makes my head hurt."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 4:27pm

"This has nothing t-to do with confidence. I could lead. I t-think…"

This is maybe a bit much for me, since my studder is returning.

"Listen… If I wanted to hurt you… No."

I face them.

"You know I would never willingly hurt any of you guys. You're my family. So… I woulden't. It's not a problem."

I hope.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 4:29pm

[ Between Nephy, Noir, and Wreck, Gen X is going to turn into DV8. ]


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 4:31pm

« I have no idea what that means. »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 4:32pm

[ It was the anti-Gen 13. They had their own book, it was pretty twisted for a non-Vertigo book at the time. ]


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Kelly Alecia "Star Girl" Lisa on Aug 27, 2007, 4:33pm

Aug 27, 2007, 4:29pm, Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura wrote:[ Between Nephy, Noir, and Wreck, Gen X is going to turn into DV8. ]

[????]


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 4:33pm

« It means none of our charaters are going to be caring about saving people. »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 4:33pm

« Still not quite getting it.

I care.

Will's the one that tried to get everyone brought back to life by zombie queen.

Vote Will 2007»


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 4:34pm

[ DV8 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DV8 ]


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Danny O'Conner on Aug 27, 2007, 4:34pm

« Jeez, Dandy, you're pretty dumb. »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 4:34pm

Aug 27, 2007, 4:33pm, William "Wraithling" Weaver wrote:« Still not quite getting it. »

[ They were twisted, anti-heroic assholes. One issue dealt with mass murdering an inbred sex cult of mutants. ]


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Cheshire on Aug 27, 2007, 4:35pm

«But we've already got that, it's called New Mutants West.»


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 4:36pm

Aug 27, 2007, 4:35pm, Cheshire wrote:«But we've already got that, it's called New Mutants West.»

« Also, now that everyone and their mother has volunteered to be leader, how ARE we descideing? »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Cheshire on Aug 27, 2007, 4:37pm

«Battle to the death!»


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 4:37pm

Aug 27, 2007, 4:35pm, Cheshire wrote:«But we've already got that, it's called New Mutants West.»

« Touche. And I think the GMs should decide what would be best for sake of their team's stories and characters. »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sir Nathaniel/Fang on Aug 27, 2007, 4:38pm

«Judging by the first post either last has chosen, or plans to read through this topic to decide. Either that or there should of been a voting booth at the top of the page.»


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Danny O'Conner on Aug 27, 2007, 4:38pm

« I agree with Cheesy. »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 4:38pm

Aug 27, 2007, 4:37pm, Cheshire wrote:«Battle to the death!»

« We already did that. It's called mission 21. Nephy beat all your asses. »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 4:51pm

« But this time there's a twist, the first one to die wins! »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 4:53pm

[ I think there should be a white conch shell, and whoever holds it gets to speak. Nathaniel would lead, and Joe would be his faithful sidekick and voice of reason. Meanwhile, Torrance and the others become the Hunters.

Eventually, when threat of a monster arises, everyone goes crazy and Joe dies, but a ship saves them in the end. ]


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Cheshire on Aug 27, 2007, 4:54pm

«Whooo! Crushed by a rock!»


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 4:56pm

« I'll get my rock… »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Protoman on Aug 27, 2007, 4:56pm

«Rocks fall, everyone dies?»


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 4:56pm

« I hated Lord of the Flies…. »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Kelly Alecia "Star Girl" Lisa on Aug 27, 2007, 4:58pm

[Amy, it's too close to LoF as it is….]


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 4:58pm

Aug 27, 2007, 4:56pm, Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim wrote:« I hated Lord of the Flies…. »

[ Oh, sucks to your assmar, Piggy. ]


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sir Nathaniel/Fang on Aug 27, 2007, 4:59pm

[For some reason I was thinking Predator meets Marathon Man…]


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Cheshire on Aug 27, 2007, 4:59pm

Aug 27, 2007, 4:58pm, Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura wrote:
Aug 27, 2007, 4:56pm, Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim wrote:« I hated Lord of the Flies…. »

[ Oh, sucks to your assmar, Piggy. ]

«Two *golf clap*'s in one day? Madness!»


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 5:01pm

« THIS IS! GEN X!! *kicks Joe into a hole* »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 5:08pm

Aug 27, 2007, 5:01pm, William "Wraithling" Weaver wrote:« THIS IS! GEN X!! *kicks Joe into a hole* »

[ This…is…Cake Town! ]


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Protoman on Aug 27, 2007, 5:09pm

«How about we quit the OOC shit and go back to the topic?»


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Danny O'Conner on Aug 27, 2007, 5:10pm

« How about you shut up, Proto? »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 5:10pm

[ Yes, away with your fun and enjoyment, people.

New Mutants is serious business. ]


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 5:11pm

« He has a point, though we still don't got a leader. »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Protoman on Aug 27, 2007, 5:13pm

«See?! Sam agrees with me. Now, back to your regularly scheduled arguing.»

"I could support Marcus as the leader, better than someone that will sell us out."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Danny O'Conner on Aug 27, 2007, 5:16pm

"Most of our problems have been Marcus' fault. Who knows what mess he'll lead us into next."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 5:17pm

"I really like Marcus, but he's not… He's not sure what he's doing.

Maybe if he had more time to practice…"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 5:20pm

"How so? Bulletpoint it. All people have done is throw their hat in the ring and then smear anyone who doesn't want to throw in with them.

What's wrong with Marcus?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 5:23pm

"He gives orders too fast without examineing the situation, and it often just confuses people. He's been trying the last few missions, and it has not done very well."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Protoman on Aug 27, 2007, 5:24pm

"No one's died have they? Marcus seems to have done a pretty fucking good job."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sara "Radical Dreamer" Lincoln on Aug 27, 2007, 5:24pm

Sara gulps, her boyfriend is pretty much the only person she hasn't talked to since getting back from New York.

"I'd be with fine Mark or Nephy. Mark would be great if he had a chance to kinda, I don't know, like grow into it? He usually does pretty well when he takes charge."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 5:24pm

"Also, considering how powerful he is, he should be flying out of range blasting at enemys insted of wasting time with us giving orders. He's really powerful, you know."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Cheshire on Aug 27, 2007, 5:24pm

"What about Adam?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sir Nathaniel/Fang on Aug 27, 2007, 5:25pm

"Marcus, and Sara both have the heart, and mentality. I have been around them both to know this. Sara has come along ways, both on her own, and in the training we have under taken. Marcus may be a little unsure, but I promise you will never regret his choice. Miss Silvey has an easy pressence for leadership. Lady Nephy has my trust, and gratitude, but lacks the moral ambuiguity at times when it is needed most. This team is designed around the idea of us being heroes. We strive to make the world that much better with every outting we make, and thus can not turn our back on that concept."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Danny O'Conner on Aug 27, 2007, 5:25pm

"Marcus also appears to have some kind of confidence problem."

"Adam…no…just no."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sara "Radical Dreamer" Lincoln on Aug 27, 2007, 5:25pm

Aug 27, 2007, 5:24pm, Cheshire wrote:"What about Adam?"

« XD »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Protoman on Aug 27, 2007, 5:26pm

"Nate, I notice you didn't examine me in that little speech."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 5:28pm

"Haa…"

Moral ambuiguity. That's something to say considering I'm the only one who's defended his choice in what he did the last mission.

"I think I have morals…"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Danny O'Conner on Aug 27, 2007, 5:28pm

"Shut up, Lex. Quit being an egotistical jerk."

"You never said anything about me, Nate."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 5:28pm

"Or me."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sir Nathaniel/Fang on Aug 27, 2007, 5:29pm

"Marcus is overcoming that confidence problem."

"Honestly Alexander, we have had our blows, but you need to keep your head availible for Baby Alexia. You take on much outside of that, and you may be leaving her with out a father often enough to regret it later in life."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Cheshire on Aug 27, 2007, 5:29pm

"What's wrong with Adam? I like him!"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 5:30pm

"Why are you all so focused on 'Me! Me! Me!'? Jesus Christ, it's like a Me First and the Gimme Gimme lovefest in here.

Team. Teamwork. No I in team. Think about the whole picture, not you. Christ."

Torrance glares at Banshee then shakes her head wearily.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 5:30pm

"Haa…"

I cast a tired look at Joe.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Protoman on Aug 27, 2007, 5:32pm

"I was joking, Torrance. I just noticed that he mentioned just about every other candidate but not me. I still say that I don't trust you as far as I could throw you. Which is pretty far after I increase my strength."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 5:33pm

"You're one to talk, I don't recall you being the understanding, supportive type. Yelling at everyone doesn't make you a leader."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sir Nathaniel/Fang on Aug 27, 2007, 5:33pm

Aug 27, 2007, 5:28pm, Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim wrote:"Haa…"

Moral ambuiguity. That's something to say considering I'm the only one who's defended his choice in what he did the last mission.

"I think I have morals…"

"You do, and I value it. Often I have found you as my rock and anchor when my darkside becomes too prevelent. Maybe I missspoke, but there is something missing in your leadership qualities. I have confidence you will find it in time.

He turns to Daniel,"Daniel, a leader needs to be someone you can depend on through thick, and thin. Can you honestly tell me you want that responsibility."

"William….have we ever met?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 5:34pm

Trust issues, coming from the guy who knowingly rails a minor without protection.

Torrance smiles to herself and stops scratching at the doodle on her napkin.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Cheshire on Aug 27, 2007, 5:34pm

"Well…" Joe sighs. "Maybe we should figure out who's NOT very good for the team. But I don't want anyone to get all mad and stuff…but I'm out, I don't think I'd be very good."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 5:34pm

"My reputation doesn't proceed me?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 5:34pm

"I think we should make a list. So we don't keep repeating the same things over and over."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Protoman on Aug 27, 2007, 5:35pm

«Uh, Amy, Lex was 17 at the time AND mind controlled.»


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Danny O'Conner on Aug 27, 2007, 5:38pm

Aug 27, 2007, 5:33pm, Sir Nathaniel/Fang wrote:
Aug 27, 2007, 5:28pm, Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim wrote:"Haa…"

Moral ambuiguity. That's something to say considering I'm the only one who's defended his choice in what he did the last mission.

"I think I have morals…"

"You do, and I value it. Often I have found you as my rock and anchor when my darkside becomes too prevelent. Maybe I missspoke, but there is something missing in your leadership qualities. I have confidence you will find it in time.

He turns to Daniel,"Daniel, a leader needs to be someone you can depend on through thick, and thin. Can you honestly tell me you want that responsibility."

"William….have we ever met?"

"Maybe I do."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 5:39pm

Aug 27, 2007, 5:35pm, Protoman wrote:«Uh, Amy, Lex was 17 at the time AND mind controlled.»

[ I forgot Torrance went OOC and metagamed all game knowledge before she was created, rather than play off the little amount she does know about someone she couldn't give a second thought to. My bad. ]


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sir Nathaniel/Fang on Aug 27, 2007, 5:41pm

"Staying up late stratigizing when we have the intel we need? Training with the team on a regular bases as well as requested training sessions? Taking time out to worry over your fellow teammates when something happens to them, or in there lives?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Danny O'Conner on Aug 27, 2007, 5:42pm

"Sure. I have nothing better to do."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 5:44pm

"You humans are soft. We should decide this with battle."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 5:45pm

"Look, the point is, we could all nitpick each other and dig deep and find enough personal or academic bullshit to discredit every single one of us. But that's not what a leader does, and it sure as hell isn't what a team does to eachother.

So first off, you all have a lot to learn about how to play together as a team,"

She flicks her Zippo absent mindedly.

"And secondly, I'm just trying to figure out what would be a good working solution for everyone involved. Aside from Nathaniel, no one seems to be helping on that front."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Cheshire on Aug 27, 2007, 5:46pm

"I'm tryin' a help, I'm just not real good at it, I don't think. Right now, I think Marcus or Nephy sounds like the best all-around, but I'm not good at thinkin' all of the stuff through. I'm sorry."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 5:49pm

"Does Marcus even want to be the leader?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 5:50pm

"There is a simple way to decide who should be leader." I say, grunting. "Even more simple than a battle royale."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Cheshire on Aug 27, 2007, 5:50pm

"That's a good question…I don't know. Has anyone talked to him?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Danny O'Conner on Aug 27, 2007, 5:51pm

"No, Orc, we aren't just going to give it to you."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 5:52pm

"Very funny Daniel, but no, that is not the solution I'm proposing."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 5:52pm

"Yes, I think he does."

I like how she told me to list the reasons Marcus was not that good, then complains we are nit-picking.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Cheshire on Aug 27, 2007, 5:53pm

"What's your solution, Orchestra?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sir Nathaniel/Fang on Aug 27, 2007, 5:53pm

"I talked to him, but he did not have much to say on it. He seemed ready last mission for it."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Danny O'Conner on Aug 27, 2007, 5:53pm

"Then what the fucking are you babbling about?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 5:55pm

"A contest to see who can keep the clearest head under pressure. Back home we referred to it as the 'Nasdazio,' which I do not believe has a translation into English, but that is besides the point. It was a rigorous mental exercise, that pushed even the most fierce to their limits."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Cheshire on Aug 27, 2007, 5:56pm

"Well, that definitely means I'm out," chuckles Joe. "But it's not a bad idea, maybe."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sir Nathaniel/Fang on Aug 27, 2007, 5:57pm

"Sounds good to me, but we need to wait till all our nominees are present."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Danny O'Conner on Aug 27, 2007, 5:57pm

"Interesting…"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 5:57pm

"That would be worth investigating, rather than just appointing somebody and being sorely disappointed when it's gametime."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 5:58pm

"Sounds fair."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 6:00pm

Will gets out a pen and piece of paper.

"Noir… Nephy… Me… Marcus, maybe… who else? Dan?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 6:01pm

"Uhhh…I would actually like to note that the test is worthless unless performed in the proper realms. Most of you are familiar with the Darkforce, correct?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 6:02pm

"Sara."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Protoman on Aug 27, 2007, 6:02pm

"Me…and fuck the Darkforce."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 6:03pm

"Darkforce? May as well crown Torrance now."

He scribbles down another name.

"Sara…"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 6:03pm

"Mannnn, I'm so jonesing for the T-A-B right now…" Torrance lazily swivels in her chair, making circles.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 6:04pm

"… That's hardly fair.

Torrance, can I talk to you for a second?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 6:05pm

"I do not believe this is the case. There are realms in the Darkforce even I would not venture, this is where the test was held. I remember one day…" I shake my head.

"…No matter. We could do it underwater…or a very dark room, but that just wouldn't be the same."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 6:06pm

Torrance shrugs, draining her glass of TAB. "Sure, one sec. Mr. Cassidy? Can I have some more of this?" she holds up the can. "In your largest glass?"

She saunters around the table to Nephy, then leans on it one-handed. "Yes?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sir Nathaniel/Fang on Aug 27, 2007, 6:08pm

"Orchestra, just tell us the rules, and we can simulate in Danger with the modifications Mr. Cassidy recommends."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 6:14pm

"Torrance…"

I smile weakly up at her.

"Listen. I bet you were great on the Hellions, I really, really do. And one day, I think you and William should try to be leaders.

But you just got here… can't it wait? They…"

I look at Sara.

"I don't think they all trust you well enough. With your… history."

I try not to think about Magneto and Torrance in the same thought.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 6:14pm

"An environment where candidate is deprived of a sense. Then, the candidates must wait for an unspecified amount of time, sometimes minutes, sometimes months, before the attack comes. A creature will strike out at them, and while the clear objective, in their minds, will be to use their mutual abilities to fend it off, one will always emerge as a leader…or as the last man standing."

I look around the room.

"I swear that sounds so much better in my native tongue, and French."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sir Nathaniel/Fang on Aug 27, 2007, 6:17pm

"Hmm…They have some simular trials in the more traditional martial arts, particurly in Kung Fu. Interesting," He stops, and shoots Banshee a look that his old spy work should be able to pick up easily.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 6:18pm

Will rolls his eyes at Torrance's Tab comment.

"Alright, I get it, I shouldn't have asked you to try something new. You can quit punishing me now."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 6:19pm

"Who the hell are you?" I ask, looking at Will.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 6:21pm

"Why would I punish you Will, when it's you who released me from a Tab-free prison of my own design, and led me to the discovery of my new favorite beverage… TAB?"

Torrance shakes her head and rags a hand through her hair.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 6:21pm

"William Weaver, nice to meet you, and you're Blackula, I assume?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 6:21pm

"I already do not like you."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 6:22pm

"Orchestra, be nice."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 6:23pm

Looking down at Nephy, Torrance just shrugs.

"I'm not pushing for it. They ask, I say I can do the job. If I don't get it, I could give a shit, I have other hobbies. I'm not hanging anything on it. I graduated already, I can just go be an X-Whatever."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 6:24pm

He turns his chair around, her constant berating finally getting to him.

"All I wanted you to do was have a sip and see if you liked it."

Over his shoulder.

"Yeah, I have that effect of people, Orchestra."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 6:26pm

"No Nephy, I will not." I say. "I have proposed several ways of deciding our leader. let us pick one."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 6:27pm

"Torrance…"

I look down again.

"I don't want Sara to leave, Torrance. Please, don't force it."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 6:31pm

"If the girl wishes to leave it is her choice, disagreeing with the choice of a leader is a valid reason for breaking away from a tribe."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 6:31pm

"Right, ultimatums and hissy fits are certainly the best teamwork one can offer. Not selfish at all. I'll keep it underadvisement."

What has two thumbs and doesn't give a shit? Torrance Emma Silvey!


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 6:33pm

"Why does it have to come to that!"

I turn toward Ochestra.

"We were unanimous in suport of Izabella. Dillion complained somtimes, but he was just kidding mostly. He knew she was a great leader.

If we can't simply agree on one, we shoulden't force it on the others. We're a team. Everyone has to pay attention to everyone else."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 6:34pm

"When you elected her were there better options? Few here are fit to lead, in the opinions of most, a test of skill should determine our leader. Democracy is another word for the weakness of human culture. When did you all leave the fierceness possessed by the Spartans of legend?" I ask, spitting on the ground.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 6:36pm

"Spartans were led by their king and nobility."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sir Nathaniel/Fang on Aug 27, 2007, 6:37pm

"When they started making laws against killing men who earned death."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 6:38pm

"Life's a bitch and then you marry one, jeez," Torrance sighs under breath. "Get the net."

"It might not be an all-for-one decision. Jobs don't let you choose. The military doesn't let you choose. Sports don't let you choose. There's a consensus, and possibly governing power.

If she's willing to throw away your friendship and the team over one imagined grudge, then at least we know we can take her out of the running, because that's Taco Bell Grade Maturity right there."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 6:38pm

"The Spartans had two Kings, but their governmental ways besides, they were fierce warriors, as we should be. Sara could not lead us to be those fierce warriors, this fool William could not do that."

"I believe that Torrance could, but at the same token, I believe Nephy could also. Maybe just they should fight."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 6:39pm

"Then we should let the teachers chose, or vote."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sir Nathaniel/Fang on Aug 27, 2007, 6:40pm

Aug 27, 2007, 6:38pm, Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura wrote:"Life's a bitch and then you marry one, jeez," Torrance sighs under breath. "Get the net."

"It might not be an all-for-one decision. Jobs don't let you choose. The military doesn't let you choose. Sports don't let you choose. There's a consensus, and possibly governing power.

If she's willing to throw away your friendship and the team over one imagined grudge, then at least we know we can take her out of the running, because that's Taco Bell Grade Maturity right there."

"Then have the decency to say that to her face, or loose the lip."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Protoman on Aug 27, 2007, 6:40pm

Lex kicks Orchestra lightly.

"I think that Sara could make a good leader, Marcus too."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 6:42pm

As Lex withdraws his leg, my head snaps out and gives it a light bite. Not lighter than his kick however.

"Speak with your words, human. And the teachers should not choose a field leader unless they have a vested interest in our missions. I do not believe that Banshee accompanies you out the way Rogue does, does he?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 6:46pm

"Alright," and Torrance walks over to Sara.

"Lincoln. If you're willing to throw away your friendship and the team just because you don't like me, that's pretty selfish. Insecurity is selfish.

You have to think for the team, not for yourself. And start by realizing that making Red and your other friends sad over one minor grudge is the most un-teamlike thing you can do.

I haven't busted your chops at all, let alone said word one to you, so you can also stop exaggerating to Headmaster Cassidy about it.

I don't think of you. I think of the team, and how we have to pull together now. And if you can't grasp that, if you're so fixated on what you think I think of you, then yeah go, because you'd only hurt the team.

But I'm fairly sure you're better than that. So suck it up, buttercup.”


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 6:47pm

Will turns to the rest of thee group.

"Anyone want to explain this guy to me? What's his deal?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 6:48pm

"If you wish to know about my 'deal,' then question me about it to my face, human."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 6:49pm

"Fair enough.

What's your deal?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 6:51pm

"My deal is the level of incompetence you humans are showing over a rather simple affair. There is far too much deliberation and stupidity, not enough action! If someone truly wanted this position they would already have it! They would stand up up and take it!"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 6:55pm

Turning to Orchestra, Torrance raises her hand. "Hi, standing."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sara "Radical Dreamer" Lincoln on Aug 27, 2007, 6:56pm

Think about it think about it think about it

Sara licks her lips slightly before her eyes start glowing and Torrance finds herself with a blade tip at her neck.

"Listen up you worthless little fuck. You can come in here and act like you're better then everyone, you can try and psycho analyze us, hell, you can call me bratty, insecure, and selfish."

She makes sure to spit a few of the words out.

"But if you ever listened to anything that didn't come out of your own pompous ash tray of a mouth, you'd have heard, clear as day, that my friends. My real friends. Aren't going to support a self righteous, inconsiderate, egotistical, little fuck up, just because she comes in demanding attention."

She glares at her.

"Now go ahead, we both know you're dieing to tell me that I just described myself. But guess what? The only thing I care about? Is that you know your own god damn place, shut your damn mouth, and don't presume to know about anyone, let alone what's best for anyone. And if I ever see you smoking another cigarette in MY home again, I swear to god I'll make it so you'll have no choice but to smoke them out a hole in your chest."

She doens't break for a second as she shifts the staff in a slight circle, teasing with the blade.

"Got it?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Protoman on Aug 27, 2007, 6:56pm

Lex glances at Torrance and Orchestra.

"Also standing."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Protoman on Aug 27, 2007, 6:57pm

Then Sara does that…

"…whoa…"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 6:57pm

"Excellent!" I shout, gleefully. "We have three standing!"

"And by the Shadowcaster, ginger has spunk."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 6:58pm

"Case in point, people."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Protoman on Aug 27, 2007, 7:00pm

"You know what, Torrance, I've heard about enough of you talking about Sara." Lex says, turning to face Torrance. "I'd follow her before I would you, she hasn't sold out an entire group to a madman. I'd trust Sara with my life."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 7:00pm

"A very nice case." A grin flashes at Torrance. "I believe ginger wishes to kill you, that is not something you should take lightly Torrance."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sir Nathaniel/Fang on Aug 27, 2007, 7:02pm

"I have tested Lady Sara in combat, and while she may not be knight material, she has the heart, and soul of a warrior."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sara "Radical Dreamer" Lincoln on Aug 27, 2007, 7:06pm

"Yeah!"

She says, still not breaking her glare

"And I don't even care if I'm in charge. I just want it to be someone that actually cares about this team, and who's on it. Not someone who just walks in one day, without knowing half of us or caring about the rest, and expecting to be put in charge for no reason."

She takes a deep breath.

"I've been here since day one, I've fought, I've bled, I've lost my memories. And I have one thing that no one else here has. I have nowhere to go. So pardon me if I take this all a little more personally then the emo-chain smoker, but I don't want to see my family go to hell because the distant cousin decided to come and stir shit up."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 7:07pm

"Of course you'd follow her, you'd probably impregnate her and screw up yet another teen girl's life," Torrance shrugs.

"Y'know what, fuck me for trying to help I guess. It's clear who the mature, level headed decision makers are who can be entrusted with your lives."

She turns to Cassidy. "I guess I'll just take that job offer Air gave me earlier. I know the way out."

She tosses her Camels to Dan. "Take it easy, D."

And she's out of the room.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 7:07pm

"And a knife to her teammates throat. Why sell someone out to a madman when you can be a psycho on your own? What is wrong with you people?"

He chases after her.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Danny O'Conner on Aug 27, 2007, 7:08pm

He catches the smokes.

"You're all insane."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Protoman on Aug 27, 2007, 7:09pm

"…."

Fucking bitch. And yet, she's already gone. No reason to yell after her.

"…fucking bitch."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sir Nathaniel/Fang on Aug 27, 2007, 7:09pm

Nathaniel smiles at Sara,"Bout time you got your fire back. It always did look good on you."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 7:10pm

"Ginger would have my respect if she had rammed that knife through Torrance's throat, instead of letting it dance in the air near it."

I bow and follow Torrance out of the room.

"Do not do anything rash, human…I mean…Torrance. Forgive my use of words."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sara "Radical Dreamer" Lincoln on Aug 27, 2007, 7:16pm

Sara looks at the staff as Torrance leaves, shocked at herself before turning to Nate and quickly retracting it.

"I….did I really just do that?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Protoman on Aug 27, 2007, 7:17pm

Lex smiles at Sara.

"Yeah, you did. Good job."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sir Nathaniel/Fang on Aug 27, 2007, 7:18pm

He nods, and bows. "M'lady."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 7:22pm

"Spook, it's not even worth our time. Don't worry about. Look at 'em. Wasting all that time, debating, no action. It's all ego, they aren't objective. They don't want to save the world."

She wheels around on Orchestra and Will.

"Motormouth insecure narcissist, an irresponsible teen father, a Holy Grail extra, and the "King of Hell"?

It's a bad 90's Marvel comic book, and it isn't helping the world."

She kicks the wall. "Y'know what? I fucking…fucking wanted to go college. Go here, learn my powers, graduate, go to college. Have a band again. No. No, I can't fucking do that. I can't fucking do that because the goddamn WHITE HOUSE BLOWS UP. With everyone inside it, isn't that so convenient? So that only the flat, generic, one-dimensional racists with an objective can miraculously take control and now we're living in 1940s Germany, but on a global scale."

She runs a hand through her hair. "Fuck. That. Dude knew, Xavier knew he was being a jerk. GAH!

Professor Xavier is a jerk! Such a fucking jerk-off! He knew it'd lead to this! Now I'm blackballed into being a frickin' X-Man, save the world.

From what? From who? Save it from them," she stabs her finger back to the room. "I want to do something, and it isn't sit around and masturbate my ego about who's in charge. So I have this," and she pulls out her Black Air letter.

"Job offer. Gov Agency. Off the radar. Why not? I can't think of a reason to not? Can you? Didn't think so.

Peace out."

She storms back off.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 7:27pm

« The White House blew up? »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 7:27pm

I watch as Torrance leaves and re-enter the room where everyone sits, beaming at Sara for her foolish actions.

"People like you are why tribes die."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Protoman on Aug 27, 2007, 7:28pm

"Fuck off, Orchestra."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Joshua/Darya/Kara/Marcus on Aug 27, 2007, 7:28pm

«Yes it did.»

Then she bumps into Marcus.

"What? Torrance?"

He did hear something about her being here… and now she looks angry.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sir Nathaniel/Fang on Aug 27, 2007, 7:29pm

[Lets get something straight, are we waiting on the GM decision for this, or were we susposed to decide on our own? If we're waiting then we're just treading in circles.]


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Danny O'Conner on Aug 27, 2007, 7:29pm

"I think I'll agree with Orc."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sir Nathaniel/Fang on Aug 27, 2007, 7:30pm

Aug 27, 2007, 7:27pm, Orchestra the Mighty wrote:I watch as Torrance leaves and re-enter the room where everyone sits, beaming at Sara for her foolish actions.

"People like you are why tribes die."

"Mind explaining your change in position?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 7:30pm

« What did Noir ever do to Sara? »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 7:31pm

« Yeah, we've been going in circles for a while. »

"… Sara… What did you do?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sir Nathaniel/Fang on Aug 27, 2007, 7:31pm

Aug 27, 2007, 7:30pm, William "Wraithling" Weaver wrote:« What did Noir ever do to Sara? »

«Being herself in front her. She does come off a bit strong willed, and insulting. Even if she isn't serious about it.»


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 7:32pm

"No, you fuck off, Aleander. Fuck off with that staff of hers." I bark. "Petty infighting is why tribes fall apart! She says she cares about this team but she refuses to accept that someone who she doe not like might very well be it's salvation."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 7:32pm

Aug 27, 2007, 7:30pm, William "Wraithling" Weaver wrote:« What did Noir ever do to Sara? »

« She has generaly acted like an ass to her in every topic they've been in. You can check. This is not out of nowhere. »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 7:33pm

« Don't worry DDR, it's a moral victory. »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sir Nathaniel/Fang on Aug 27, 2007, 7:34pm

Aug 27, 2007, 7:32pm, Orchestra the Mighty wrote:"No, you fuck off, Aleander. Fuck off with that staff of hers." I bark. "Petty infighting is why tribes fall apart! She says she cares about this team but she refuses to accept that someone who she doe not like might very well be it's salvation."

"Who is leaving?"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 7:34pm

"Torrance."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sara "Radical Dreamer" Lincoln on Aug 27, 2007, 7:35pm

Aug 27, 2007, 7:30pm, William "Wraithling" Weaver wrote:« What did Noir ever do to Sara? »

«Combination of things including Sara's constantly being on the defense, and the fact that Noir has never given her a fair and balanced chance.

Since day one at the mansion, without any real in character (to my knowledge) reason, Sara has been treated like shit under her shoe, no matter what she says or does.

So the general in character fear is that since this is Sara's home, and given her lack of memories, and lack of family period, the team IS her home, it's all she has and she knows it.

So the idea of someone who positively despises her being in charge of her 'family' is enough to scare the shit out of her and make her go on the extreme defensive»

Sara drops her staff and back up a bit, rubbing her forehead.

"I…I…I have no idea…"


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 7:36pm

Aug 27, 2007, 7:28pm, Joshua/Darya/Kara/Marcus wrote:«Yes it did.»

Then she bumps into Marcus.

"What? Torrance?"

He did hear something about her being here… and now she looks angry.

"Hello…Marcus. Cool glowy thingys. I have to be somewhere. See you in Hell, I guess."

She lets out a dry laugh. "Or so they said, see, that was a joke 'cause…whatever, later."

And she's gone.

Again.

Out of the topic.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sir Nathaniel/Fang on Aug 27, 2007, 7:36pm

"Hmm…I will plant a seed in her name. This is not the first time she has gone astray, and something I fear."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Joshua/Darya/Kara/Marcus on Aug 27, 2007, 7:38pm

After that Marcus went towards the source of the yelling.

"Somebody tell me what happened."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 7:38pm

Aug 27, 2007, 7:35pm, Sara "Radical Dreamer" Lincoln wrote:

Since day one at the mansion…and given her lack of memories

[ Continuity alert. Continuity alert.

Unit complete.
"Unit reporting."
Stand by to launch nuke. ]


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Joshua/Darya/Kara/Marcus on Aug 27, 2007, 7:39pm

[Aw hell… does it really have to be a nuke? That's kinda harsh…]


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sara "Radical Dreamer" Lincoln on Aug 27, 2007, 7:39pm

Aug 27, 2007, 7:38pm, Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura wrote:
Aug 27, 2007, 7:35pm, Sara "Radical Dreamer" Lincoln wrote:

Since day one at the mansion…and given her lack of memories

[ Continuity alert. Continuity alert.

Unit complete.
"Unit reporting."
Stand by to launch nuke. ]

«You actually know what the deal is with that, so you don't get to make jokes about the continuity.

I'd also appreciate it if you didn't out me again, once a day is enough.»


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sir Nathaniel/Fang on Aug 27, 2007, 7:39pm

Nathaniel looks to Sara,"That should be your honor."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Danny O'Conner on Aug 27, 2007, 7:42pm

« ZOMG, Grey's in the closet?! :P »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sara "Radical Dreamer" Lincoln on Aug 27, 2007, 7:43pm

«Shut up Del»


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sir Nathaniel/Fang on Aug 27, 2007, 7:47pm

[I'm out for a while. I don't know what is going on behind the scenes, but we have no mods, and no gms here.]

"I will leave you guys to your discussion. I have other affairs that need attending too." He walks out.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 7:48pm

"Sara, come here."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sara "Radical Dreamer" Lincoln on Aug 27, 2007, 7:51pm

Sara's head drops as she shuffles over to Nephy slowly and shamefully.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 7:53pm

I take her hand and walk toward our room, quickly (Not for her, of course, but for me.)

"I think this meeting is over."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Joshua/Darya/Kara/Marcus on Aug 27, 2007, 7:56pm

Well he knew something happened.

And it had to do with Sara being sad.

The yelling.

Torrance leaving.

But he didn't push it. He kinda had a bad day too. As they left.

"one big happy family…"

sighing.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 7:57pm

Aug 27, 2007, 7:39pm, Sara "Radical Dreamer" Lincoln wrote:
Aug 27, 2007, 7:38pm, Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura wrote:

[ Continuity alert. Continuity alert.

Unit complete.
"Unit reporting."
Stand by to launch nuke. ]

«You actually know what the deal is with that, so you don't get to make jokes about the continuity.

I'd also appreciate it if you didn't out me again, once a day is enough.»

[ ??? on both counts. ]


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Protoman on Aug 27, 2007, 7:57pm

Lex drops into a seat.

"Well that was different."


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Orchestra the Mighty on Aug 27, 2007, 7:59pm

"Indeed it was."

Human.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 8:09pm

« I'm confused, if Sara has amnesia why does she dislike Torrance? How far does the amnesia go back? »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Joshua/Darya/Kara/Marcus on Aug 27, 2007, 8:11pm

«She gets random memories from time to time from several points of her life.»


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 8:11pm

« Well, for starters Torrance has acted like an ass to Sara after Torrance came to gen-X. »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sara "Radical Dreamer" Lincoln on Aug 27, 2007, 8:11pm

«She has bits and pieces from the mansion on, but her dislike of Torrance is mainly due to their recent encounters

When Torrance first showed up in the Aqua Base, Sara showed up all happy and nice to try and introduce herself and got treated like crap, something that's remained as consistent since then as it was back at the mansion. As far as Sara is concerned, this is just a girl who's an incredibly large bitch to her for no reason at all»


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Danny O'Conner on Aug 27, 2007, 8:13pm

« Torrance is just a meany. Or homophobic. Or both. Or I don't give a shit. Or maybe I'm just slapping my keyboard and all of this gets typed out. Or bananas. Or lava cakes. Or…BROWNIES! POT BROWNIES! YES! »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 8:21pm

« Torrance is just that aspect of my personality that automatically dislikes someone new for no reason. You know you've done it at one time in your life. Sara, OOC and IC, happened to be that character.

Well played antagonism from either side, but I honestly can't recall too many episodes between the two of them.

I really can only think of two instances they ever got into it hardcore, and the big one was the Magneto debate before the attack. The other was just helping Polarity be a dick.

I can't think of anything she's done in the Aqua Compound aside from that off-handed comment to Wisdom.

Bonus note: I truly believe, as Torrance does, that Magneto was more correct than Xavier, at least as the 1982 universe played out. I wish that original discussion was still around, I had some killer points. »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sara "Radical Dreamer" Lincoln on Aug 27, 2007, 8:25pm

«This is almost a non point, but Torrance was the one who walked into the first GenX meeting, before they left the mansion, and publically dragged Sara out of the closet despite having no way of knowing she was gay. That's the big one

And in the Aqua Base it was more that Sara was going out of her way to be nice and was getting treated worse then shit, which to someone who's been on GenX the entire time makes the potential leadership draw seem insulting.»


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sadie "Suicide Queen" Hannoura on Aug 27, 2007, 8:27pm

[ It wasn't before Gen X's meeting, it was during the Magneto prep. I remember now.

And I still don't recall doing anything out of the way on the Aqua Base. But Sara/Noir has been a little too exaggerated in the Compound, I find. ]


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 8:28pm

« For the love of the invisible pink unicorn will you two please stop trying to gain the moral high ground. »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 8:29pm

« Uh, Will told Noir. I thought I established that already? »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Danny O'Conner on Aug 27, 2007, 8:29pm

« It was during Gen X's first meeting. I remember. I have good memory. I remember lots of things. I talk too much. »

« No, I changed my mind. Catfish. »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sara "Radical Dreamer" Lincoln on Aug 27, 2007, 8:32pm

Aug 27, 2007, 8:29pm, William "Wraithling" Weaver wrote:« Uh, Will told Noir. I thought I established that already? »

«Not to my knowledge

And Sara, as the most social person on Gen X (sorry Sam), has been in just about every topic Noir's been in.

She's either been ignored or talked down to, and after probably a half dozen attempts to shake hands and get a real introduction, she finally just got sick of it and gave up»


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 8:37pm

« Well… surprise? »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Danny O'Conner on Aug 27, 2007, 8:38pm

« Yeah, that rings a bell. But how did Will find out? »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sara "Radical Dreamer" Lincoln on Aug 27, 2007, 8:40pm

«She found out Nico was bi and made a move, failed miserably, and Will was just sort of standing there watching and listening

Which reminds me, we never really did get in any Will/Sara topics»


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 8:43pm

« Sara went Gen X way, Will went the Hellion way. »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Danny O'Conner on Aug 27, 2007, 8:45pm

« Moar like went the Torrance way. >_> »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 8:45pm

« >.>;;;;;;; »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Sara "Radical Dreamer" Lincoln on Aug 27, 2007, 8:46pm

«He's there now and she has amnesia, go for it»


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Danny O'Conner on Aug 27, 2007, 8:47pm

« Yeah, he should tell her about things that never happened. Like Dan does! »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by William "Wraithling" Weaver on Aug 27, 2007, 8:55pm

« It wouldn't work ic atm, Will hates violence, well… violence that's not self inflicted. »


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Cheshire on Aug 27, 2007, 10:04pm

Sean walks up to Sara. "My office, Ms. Lincoln. Twenty. Minutes." he says from tightly gritted teeth, and storms out of the room.


Re: !The Leadership Topic!
Post by Lisa "Nephy" Nephrahim on Aug 27, 2007, 10:05pm

« She's gone. Might want to stop by Nephy's room. »


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